Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
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Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
The old ELO Calculator's domine has been closed nowadays so i'm looking for an alternative sites which offers ELO calculators.
Otherwise, i waited like half a day before to post this but looks like the domine is totally closed, ladder won't be updated until we don't find an another calculator.
Otherwise, i waited like half a day before to post this but looks like the domine is totally closed, ladder won't be updated until we don't find an another calculator.
Cyber- I am a Babo in real life!
- Age : 30
Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
shit !!!
maybe someone can make new ELO calculator If this possible or we can look for new ELO calculator
maybe someone can make new ELO calculator If this possible or we can look for new ELO calculator
dizzy- Friendless Babo
Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
Yea this is going to be fixed as soon as possible.
Cyber- I am a Babo in real life!
- Age : 30
Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
The old one was from a chess site right?
EDIT: Found a chess elo calculator. I need to check if it works but looks ok.
Link: http://www.brothersoft.com/chess-calculator-for-fide-206339.html
EDIT: Found a chess elo calculator. I need to check if it works but looks ok.
Link: http://www.brothersoft.com/chess-calculator-for-fide-206339.html
Cinc- Quality Poster.
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Location : Ston, Croatia
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
>The old ELO Calculator's domineCyber wrote:The old ELO Calculator's domine has been closed nowadays so i'm looking for an alternative sites which offers ELO calculators.
Otherwise, i waited like half a day before to post this but looks like the domine is totally closed, ladder won't be updated until we don't find an another calculator.
>Calculator's domine
>domine
U mean domain amirite?
Anyways i found this shit.
http://www.kosteniuk.com/EloCalc/elo.php
dad0- Babo Spam-a-lot
Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
Okay guys thanks try to find the easiest one because cyb + math = troubles :>.
Or at least lend an hand to me.
Hope to hear from you as soon as possible so i can make it worfully again.
Or at least lend an hand to me.
Hope to hear from you as soon as possible so i can make it worfully again.
Cyber- I am a Babo in real life!
- Age : 30
Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
Probably the ELO Calculator has been found gimme one day to test if it's workfull and i'll fully update the ladder, there are like 3 matches which were played on 22 / 11 so i guess i'll follow the order of posting.
Upadate : The Elo Calculators i've found are not working as i would appreciate, i guess if you guys want the ladder to go on you might lend me an hand finding something workfully.
Tomorrow i'll try to run a related PHP Class on a local server, i'll let you know if this works.
Upadate : The Elo Calculators i've found are not working as i would appreciate, i guess if you guys want the ladder to go on you might lend me an hand finding something workfully.
Tomorrow i'll try to run a related PHP Class on a local server, i'll let you know if this works.
Cyber- I am a Babo in real life!
- Age : 30
Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
We can always fabricate one =) But I don't see any good reason to use the chess-Elo algorithm. It has some constants and variables chess only related .
MSN me, Cyb.
MSN me, Cyb.
Sasha- Friendless Babo
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
Guess we'll all have to move from babo to chess then.
cnikshutupforonceXD- I am a Babo in real life!
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
Elo is not used only on chess ranking it has been used in many kinds of ladders, anyway yea i'll msn you i found some PHP Classes about it.
I'll open a Ladder Site but this will take a bit since i've much study, now i just have to find one calculator to keep it going cuz otherwise there'll be much confusion with the new posted matches.
I'll open a Ladder Site but this will take a bit since i've much study, now i just have to find one calculator to keep it going cuz otherwise there'll be much confusion with the new posted matches.
Cyber- I am a Babo in real life!
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
Does this work for you ?
Sasha- Friendless Babo
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
Not really i write the points of the interested clans but well in Match result i just don't know what to put, there should be a check box to fill out to select who has won
The calculator needs both the points of clans + an info about who won.
Might this is me which is using it wrong but well
The calculator needs both the points of clans + an info about who won.
Might this is me which is using it wrong but well
Cyber- I am a Babo in real life!
- Age : 30
Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
If you play around with it you will notice it doesn't matter what were the scores.
Just put 1 for the winner and 0 for the loser
Upd: put 2 and 1. Chess players can't score less then 1 =)
Upd2: normally Elo includes scores in the calculation formula. Seems like something is wrong in the initial count. But if it satisfies you as is - we are good.
Upd3: Simple enough ? =)
Just put 1 for the winner and 0 for the loser
Upd: put 2 and 1. Chess players can't score less then 1 =)
Upd2: normally Elo includes scores in the calculation formula. Seems like something is wrong in the initial count. But if it satisfies you as is - we are good.
Upd3: Simple enough ? =)
Last edited by Sasha on Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:22 am; edited 1 time in total
Sasha- Friendless Babo
- Location : Israel
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
I dont know much about this ELO, but ... cant you just take it's formulas, put it in a software ( Excel, etc ) and make ur own calculator ?
memento- Babo Spam-a-lot
Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
I've just used the etc variant from your suggestion, mem.
Sasha- Friendless Babo
- Location : Israel
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
Doesn't work as the other one did.
When both clans had 1000 points one went up to 1019 and one down to 981 and your script gives like a +60 :_:
When both clans had 1000 points one went up to 1019 and one down to 981 and your script gives like a +60 :_:
Cyber- I am a Babo in real life!
- Age : 30
Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
Yep, this is what I was afraid of.
Ok, I'll think of something today.
Ok, I'll think of something today.
Sasha- Friendless Babo
- Location : Israel
Clan : ►
Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
Thanks for helping Sasha.
Cyber- I am a Babo in real life!
- Age : 30
Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
Try this with 38 K-value.
http://www.lutanho.net/pgn/calc_elo.html
http://www.lutanho.net/pgn/calc_elo.html
Sasha- Friendless Babo
- Location : Israel
Clan : ►
Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
Cyb, here you go!
Program made by me, Babo Ladder Rankings Calculator:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2Z4LFANM
You'll see that it's easy to use, if you want the source code i'll post it later.
EDIT: I tested it couple of times and i couldn't find any errors, but if you happen to find one just tell me where it occurred and I'll fix it.
Program made by me, Babo Ladder Rankings Calculator:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2Z4LFANM
You'll see that it's easy to use, if you want the source code i'll post it later.
EDIT: I tested it couple of times and i couldn't find any errors, but if you happen to find one just tell me where it occurred and I'll fix it.
Cinc- Quality Poster.
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Location : Ston, Croatia
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
Cinc wrote:Cyb, here you go!
Program made by me, Babo Ladder Rankings Calculator:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2Z4LFANM
You'll see that it's easy to use, if you want the source code i'll post it later.
EDIT: I tested it couple of times and i couldn't find any errors, but if you happen to find one just tell me where it occurred and I'll fix it.
i made one too... based on elo for chess with some add-on...
xD and today i "waste" 2 hours here:
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/trueskill/details.aspx
trying to understand the way they do the rank... it's quite cool, in the end is not rly difficoult... but it doesnt rly fit to babo imo, ofc we can try.
There's online version of the program that can be used to babo (if we change some parameters), link is here:
http://atom.research.microsoft.com/trueskill/rankcalculator.aspx
@ Cinc: i want the code
Gerry- I am a Babo in real life!
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
Cinc wrote:Cyb, here you go!
Program made by me, Babo Ladder Rankings Calculator:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2Z4LFANM
You'll see that it's easy to use, if you want the source code i'll post it later.
EDIT: I tested it couple of times and i couldn't find any errors, but if you happen to find one just tell me where it occurred and I'll fix it.
Thanks cinc i'll try this out, if you'd like to help ladder team you're welcome.
Anyway this looks like some VB fudge xD , but not sure.
P.S Today i'm out but i guess tomorrow i'll find a couple of hours to work on this and update every stuff.
Cyber- I am a Babo in real life!
- Age : 30
Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
Yea i made it in VB because it was easy to do (took me about an hour), btw I've recalculated all the rankings, I can send you the rankings file if you don't want to calculate it all again.
Cinc- Quality Poster.
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Location : Ston, Croatia
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
That'd be great, you're my new Personal Jesus
Saint Cincillator
Saint Cincillator
Cyber- I am a Babo in real life!
- Age : 30
Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions
COuld you stop posting matches for the moment ?
we're recalculating it and adding new matches.
we're recalculating it and adding new matches.
Cyber- I am a Babo in real life!
- Age : 30
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