Zooka, once and for all

by Cinc Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:50 am

Goddamn people can't you see that something needs to be done about it. Last poll clearly indicated so, but when time came to do something, everyone including me got silent. Well that's not gonna be the case now. Zooka is overpowered, and remote not should, but MUST be disabled. I'm tired of clans taking zooka as a mean of joking with someone, or to cause confusion, massive fps drops and chaos. Some order needs to be brought to this game.

Vote for freedom from zooka oppression!

by Negative Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:12 am

fudge you cinc

by Cinc Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:34 am

Negative wrote:fudge you cinc

That one was made especially for you and admi Razz

by keta Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:16 am

You just can't leave things as they is.

by Cinc Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:28 am

ketamine wrote:You just can't leave things as they is.

I'm not the one who started "server balance inquisition", I'm just responding to it Wink

by keta Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:32 am

Last time, as I remember, you started topic about lowering zooka damage. Now let's disable remote detonation. Next will be about disabling zooka at all? You disappoint me more and more.

by h8me Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:40 am

damage= 0.85
remote= 0.6 (0.8 on old servers I think)
leave the remote on.

My suggestion. Don't touch it. Learn how to fight against it.

by Cinc Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:48 am

h8me wrote:damage= 0.85
remote= 0.6 (0.8 on old servers I think)
leave the remote on.

My suggestion. Don't touch it. Learn how to fight against it.

Too much. op.

by stelistu Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:32 am

fudge you cinc.

by Cinc Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:13 am

Apparently more ppl wanna fok me then they want zooka to remain the same. Didn't know i'm so attractive Cool

by Gloom Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:13 am

Negative wrote:fudge you cinc

by Adm Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:49 am

My fudge Cinc counts as a no.

by RealJoker Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:18 am

fascist!

by Reptillia Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:03 am

Can zooka have homing missile with remote detonation and power like nuke? Razz

by cmnndr Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:57 am

Well, regardless of most peoples feelings about Cinc, remote is going doooooooown Twisted Evil

by h8me Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:31 pm

varlan wrote:Well, regardless of most peoples feelings about Cinc, remote is going doooooooown

Maybe on some servers. BVE will have it enabled no matter the outcome of this poll.

by Geronimo Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:56 pm

thats why zook teams win one day babo tourneys and are part of best clans in EU. right. Shocked

dont be wussies and adapt.

also, it is interesting to point out that the best players, at least in my eyes, have absolutely no problem with zook. only middle class players. go figure.

by Cinc Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:40 pm

Geronimo wrote:thats why zook teams win one day babo tourneys and are part of best clans in EU. right. dont be wussies and adapt.

also, it is interesting to point out that the best players, at least in my eyes, have absolutely no problem with zook. only middle class players. go figure.

Well it obviously never happened to you that you give your best, are owned fair and square but the enemy decides to provoke even more by playing zooka just to shoot at spawns or to spam to make your screen shake all the time. One of the reasons I had that little zooka-related incident.

by h8me Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:16 pm

Cinc wrote:Well it obviously never happened to you that you give your best, are owned fair and square but the enemy decides to provoke even more by playing zooka just to shoot at spawns or to spam to make your screen shake all the time. One of the reasons I had that little zooka-related incident.

If the enemy has already won, why not use the remainder of the time for practice.
Srsly though, I think you're not being objective about this. What I'm reading in the above answer is that it only hurts you but I've seen cms where people played zooka. Noone complained about it.
As for you Varlan, you were in a clan with Ardu but didn't mind him playing zooka afaik. Does this mean that it's OK as long as it doesn't hurt you?
Also, the poll is for turning off remote on RS servers, what about pub players becoming good enough to play on RS, joining and finding that some weapons are disabled? I'd feel cheated if I was a zooker joining a Squad server and finding my weapon nerfed so much and that no admin would enable remote detonation just because some players don't like to play against it.
How would it feel to join a server where snipe had been removed? I know you play SMG mostly but you've picked up a snipe from time to time, just like other players have picked up a zooka. Right off the bat many would say they didn't care but if you've come to rely on a sniper on your team, it would be lame not to have the assurance of a tagger on your side.
I know zooka isn't a snipe but it can be used in the same way, "tagging" and dealing damage, either with remote, a wall hit or by hitting your teammate as he passes the place where the enemy is hiding, to make it easier for your teammate to kill an opponent.
Anyway, that's how I see it. Don't like zooka? Time their shots and use photon against them or pick up a snipe to take them out from afar. IMO the remote has put an effective brake on walling matches in the game.

by Riku Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:22 pm

ure lucky that luna didnt see this post cinx Very Happy

by cmnndr Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:32 pm

C, I never agreed on remote detonation, even though Ardu used it. IMO is noobish and pro players should use normal fire with zooka. Think of sniper with similar setting, or photon. The matter of fact is, like Gero pointed out, that top players don't make a fuss about it. They eat and deal with it.

p.s. Not noobish, just opportunistic which ain't bad if you want to cheat the system, but honorable... I doubt.

by Adm Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:54 am

Geronimo wrote:thats why zook teams win one day babo tourneys and are part of best clans in EU. right. dont be wussies and adapt.

also, it is interesting to point out that the best players, at least in my eyes, have absolutely no problem with zook. only middle class players. go figure.

sink sank

by h8me Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:12 am

varlan wrote:C, I never agreed on remote detonation, even though Ardu used it. IMO is noobish and pro players should use normal fire with zooka. Think of sniper with similar setting, or photon. The matter of fact is, like Gero pointed out, that top players don't make a fuss about it. They eat and deal with it.

p.s. Not noobish, just opportunistic which ain't bad if you want to cheat the system, but honorable... I doubt.

Fair enough. Just that I never heard you complain when Ardu used it. Then again, maybe you did in teamchat.
Still voting no though.

by Geronimo Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:17 am

Cinc wrote:Well it obviously never happened to you that you give your best, are owned fair and square but the enemy decides to provoke even more by playing zooka just to shoot at spawns or to spam to make your screen shake all the time. One of the reasons I had that little zooka-related incident.

well how is this problem of zook as weapon?? this is problem of players and their behaviour not weapon...

by keta Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:51 am

Please don't forget what ALL weapons are instant, instead of zooka. Zooka's projectile has (slooooooow) speed. It's able to kill you even if you behind the corner, because of remote detonation. That's it feature. Weapons are different. No one's whining about photon keep giving damage when you staying in the beam. No one's whining about grenade explosion shaking screen too. Different weapons have their own behaviour, and you'll better get used to it.

Shut up and try to fight better. A bad dancer blames his balls, just like you blame zooka. What you'll blame if zooka will be disabled completely? Photon? FT? Molotov?

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